[Discussion] Taiko Competition
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Re: [Discussion] Taiko Competition
I believe different people has different opinions.
These are my views in comparison to what BLYX had stated:
1. 999note/888note/777note songs, which might not be too hard
These may not be hard to you alone, but that doesn't mean it's not hard to the rest.
Don't forget that most people in Singapore are NOT at your level. Your statement just condemn them and makes you solely at an advantage
as opposed to higher difficulty, less notes(sakuranbo, with only 300+ notes.)
Again, the stars beneath each song are not for show. They roughly give the player an idea about how hard the song is. Yes, it's less notes but it's higher stars then the 777 notes. Therefore, i suggest that higher stars should have a slightly higher scoring in the competition, which should be discussed again.
2. compulsory songs VS self-selected songs
2a.From 2: Weightage of compulsory vs. self-selected songs? 1:2 ratio? is it fair?
Compulsory ones, nonetheless, i feel it should be of higher weightage like what you brought up.
2b. From 2: ( how to choose compulsory songs)
I would rather it to be random kind of song instead. Since choosing compulsory songs are quite problematic. If anyone knows before hand the compulsory songs, they can just go pump those songs. So what's the point?
2c: From 2b: (compulsory songs from one difficulty level or differing ones)
Refer to 2b
3. Random luck songs: is it fair?
Why not? This can show how well that person is, isn't that what you wanted?
Besides, it's just one of the components.
4. Liang % or no. of liangs?
As you had mentioned in the previous posts, Liang % is not fair, considering the 100% liang in easy mode to ekiben2000.
Since % of liang is not fair, than a more fair method will be the # of liangs.
4a.If no. of liangs : link back to point 1.
Once again, those songs which may not be hard to you, may not otherwise the same case for the rest. People can pass the 777 notes but doesn't mean they can pass Sakuranbo with flying colors. In addition, if both the number of liangs and the percentage of liang can't work out, then what do you suggest?? =)
4b. From 4a: Is stamina and concentration the only skill tested if no. of liangs is the criteria? Is this qualified as the only skill needed?
As i've said, stamina and concentration is one of the skills. Meaning, there are other skills tested as well, not just stamina and conentration.
4c.(from 4)If % of liang, anpanman 2* vs ekiben 10*.[/quote]
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These are my views in comparison to what BLYX had stated:
1. 999note/888note/777note songs, which might not be too hard
These may not be hard to you alone, but that doesn't mean it's not hard to the rest.
Don't forget that most people in Singapore are NOT at your level. Your statement just condemn them and makes you solely at an advantage
as opposed to higher difficulty, less notes(sakuranbo, with only 300+ notes.)
Again, the stars beneath each song are not for show. They roughly give the player an idea about how hard the song is. Yes, it's less notes but it's higher stars then the 777 notes. Therefore, i suggest that higher stars should have a slightly higher scoring in the competition, which should be discussed again.
2. compulsory songs VS self-selected songs
2a.From 2: Weightage of compulsory vs. self-selected songs? 1:2 ratio? is it fair?
Compulsory ones, nonetheless, i feel it should be of higher weightage like what you brought up.
2b. From 2: ( how to choose compulsory songs)
I would rather it to be random kind of song instead. Since choosing compulsory songs are quite problematic. If anyone knows before hand the compulsory songs, they can just go pump those songs. So what's the point?
2c: From 2b: (compulsory songs from one difficulty level or differing ones)
Refer to 2b
3. Random luck songs: is it fair?
Why not? This can show how well that person is, isn't that what you wanted?
Besides, it's just one of the components.
4. Liang % or no. of liangs?
As you had mentioned in the previous posts, Liang % is not fair, considering the 100% liang in easy mode to ekiben2000.
Since % of liang is not fair, than a more fair method will be the # of liangs.
4a.If no. of liangs : link back to point 1.
Once again, those songs which may not be hard to you, may not otherwise the same case for the rest. People can pass the 777 notes but doesn't mean they can pass Sakuranbo with flying colors. In addition, if both the number of liangs and the percentage of liang can't work out, then what do you suggest?? =)
4b. From 4a: Is stamina and concentration the only skill tested if no. of liangs is the criteria? Is this qualified as the only skill needed?
As i've said, stamina and concentration is one of the skills. Meaning, there are other skills tested as well, not just stamina and conentration.
4c.(from 4)If % of liang, anpanman 2* vs ekiben 10*.[/quote]
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yuu_yuki- Moderator
Re: [Discussion] Taiko Competition
Alright so I'm sure based on this everyone has a rough idea of the pros and cons of each format, ya?
Please take note of these and bring these up during the meeting, whenever that is.
Please take note of these and bring these up during the meeting, whenever that is.
ongchinkai- 半人前
Re: [Discussion] Taiko Competition
@ yuu's evaluation of my points summarised:
Just one general point to remake, the rest can discuss when meet up.
It's that, even though stamina and concentration is a skill involved, then compare it to ekiben2000 or something, or even tenjiku2000. In my opinion those require EVEN more stamina. but the notes are fewer than kurenai(999note). To add to this scenario, Kurenai has a very steady and consistent rhydom in the whole song, giving another advantage as opposed to ekiben's more complex nature, in both speed and technic.
And i am not condemning anyone or giving them an unfair advantage and giving myself an edge by doing this.
To elaborate on another weakness, as brought up earlier, look at tenjiku2000. I dont think its easier than kurenai/888note or densetsumatsuri. less notes still. and you need much more stamina based on the fact that you have to hit at an extremely fast pace. you get split-second dddk dddk's as well as kkkdkkdd. If we allow the 999note etc. be allowed on comparison with such songs, along with the no. of total liangs criteria, ppl who play tenjiku etc will be disadvantaged. Since i will not be participating, as you all have said(me and yuu not allowed), im not advantaging myself by doing this.
I do not agree that opposing the 999note song advantages myself and disadvantages others. Instead, the 999note song disadvantages others who have abilities in other areas. Stamina and concentration shouldn't be the only factor to judge upon.
Just one general point to remake, the rest can discuss when meet up.
It's that, even though stamina and concentration is a skill involved, then compare it to ekiben2000 or something, or even tenjiku2000. In my opinion those require EVEN more stamina. but the notes are fewer than kurenai(999note). To add to this scenario, Kurenai has a very steady and consistent rhydom in the whole song, giving another advantage as opposed to ekiben's more complex nature, in both speed and technic.
And i am not condemning anyone or giving them an unfair advantage and giving myself an edge by doing this.
To elaborate on another weakness, as brought up earlier, look at tenjiku2000. I dont think its easier than kurenai/888note or densetsumatsuri. less notes still. and you need much more stamina based on the fact that you have to hit at an extremely fast pace. you get split-second dddk dddk's as well as kkkdkkdd. If we allow the 999note etc. be allowed on comparison with such songs, along with the no. of total liangs criteria, ppl who play tenjiku etc will be disadvantaged. Since i will not be participating, as you all have said(me and yuu not allowed), im not advantaging myself by doing this.
I do not agree that opposing the 999note song advantages myself and disadvantages others. Instead, the 999note song disadvantages others who have abilities in other areas. Stamina and concentration shouldn't be the only factor to judge upon.
HareHareYukai- 修行中
Re: [Discussion] Taiko Competition
eh yes and from yuu's post, indeed stamina and concentration isnt the only skill tested. in that case, the criteria will need changes, or other things have to be modified to ensure this.
HareHareYukai- 修行中
Re: [Discussion] Taiko Competition
Blyx, as i've mentioned before, like for umpteen times that NOT many people right now in Singapore are able to play those high end songs in oni. Specifically, those 10stars Oni songs.
And it's pointless to debate over this forum. All of us here should sit down and discuss these one of these days in dec.
And it's pointless to debate over this forum. All of us here should sit down and discuss these one of these days in dec.
yuu_yuki- Moderator
Re: [Discussion] Taiko Competition
No need to get so worked up over this, IMO. There's still time to sit down and iron out the details, so no problems here!
ongchinkai- 半人前
Re: [Discussion] Taiko Competition
a meeting is in order!
wahahahahahha!.
blyx, when will u be free? aft mid nov?
chinkai leh?
wahahahahahha!.
blyx, when will u be free? aft mid nov?
chinkai leh?
fuuyue- 半人前
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